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Hate Mail - Volume 9

"When you have no basis of argument, abuse the plaintiff"
Cicero (106 BC - 43 BC)

"Remember that foul words or blows in themselves are no outrage, but your judgment that they are so."
Epictetus (55 - 135)

This site gets a regular trickle of mail with compliments about the site, some suggesting suitable targets (I couldn't find all this stuff myself). All these messages are welcome and appreciated, but I don't see any reason to publish them. Of course, if someone insists that I publish their praise, I will be forced to agree. I did, however, promise to publish criticism. Not all of it expresses hatred, but "hate mail" is the generic Internet term for this sort of correspondence.

I have some pages which contain collections of mail on certain topics or from regular correspondents:

Anti-vaccinationists
I have created a separate page for the stream of comments I received after this site was discovered by some people opposed to vaccination.

The 99 names of ...

Canadian Cancer Research Group
Mr William P O'Neill of the Canadian Cancer Research Group does not like me ...

No truth! No courage! No value!The Gutless Anonymous Liar
Here's some correspondence from something which is so brave and so sure of what it has to say that it has to post from an anonymiser service to hide its tracks.

Multi-Level Mail
I occasionally get mail from people concerned about my views on pyramid schemes. I'm sorry, I meant to say "multi-level marketing".

Benny Hinn
I had some words to say about faith "healer" Benny Hinn, and some people did not like what I said. Many of them do not send hate mail but instead send love mail, as good Christians should.

Australian Council Against Health Fraud
Australian Council Against Health FraudThe Australian Council Against Health Fraud has its own job to do, so the staff there have outsourced the job of handling hate mail. As the ACAHF office is on the campus of Northmead Technology Park, it made sense to give the job to the highly-experienced staff on the Millenium Project desk at Ratbag Castle.


Some people don't just write. They make web sites about me, and you can see these at the Tribute Sites and Awards page.


Policy Statement

A couple of matters about this site seem to be confusing people. The first is that the content of this site is opinion. It is my opinion, and if it does not match yours then that is too bad. Some people seem to be very frightened by my opinions, although I cannot understand why this should be so. If they have businesses or beliefs which are threatened by what I say on a web site which attracts a number of visitors each month which is only a minute proportion of the hundreds of millions of Internet users, then perhaps they need to think about how strong those businesses and beliefs are. The second matter is that, because this site is an expression of my opinions, I will publish opposing opinions. From the first day this site appeared it has contained a statement that any criticism may be published here. It is not my problem if people (some claiming extensive and sophisticated research skills) have missed the warning. It was there, and the choice to write was always (and will remain) up to the writer. If you want privacy, don't write.


Here is some mail I have received in previous years.


The following comment was posted to YouTube some time in January 2008. It relates to a video I made of the famous Danish cartoons featuring Mahommed. I am suitably alarmed.

fuk your self u fuk face i swer if i ever find ill beak u in 2 suk your mom


Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:02:29 -0500
From: webcompliance@mannatech.com
Subject: Cease and Desist

TO: Peter Bowditch

RE:Impermissible Use of Health Claims Attributed to Mannatech Products 1.5.47
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/mannatech.htm

Dear Peter Bowditch:

We need your immediate assistance with a critical issue related to your website. It has come to our attention that you currently have statements on your website which are or could be construed to be unauthorized health claims which go beyond stating that Mannatech nutritional products promote the maintenance of health and general well-being. The statements made on your website are contrary to Mannatech policy.

Demand is hereby made that you immediately remove from your website any statement or reference which (i) states, suggests or implies that Mannatech nutritional products prevent, treat or cure disease, (ii) states, suggests or implies that Mannatech nutritional products are a substitute for a doctor's standard of care, and/or (iii) is in any manner in contradiction with Mannatech's existing policies and procedures. Demand is further made that you refrain from engaging in this activity in the future.

Please contact the undersigned in writing within five (5) business days from the receipt of this letter advising that you have made the requested modification to your website and confirming that you will refrain from such activity in the future.

Failure to comply with this demand may result in legal and compliance action up to and including litigation in which Mannatech will seek injunctive relief, damages and attorney's fees and costs as allowable under Texas law. Mannatech will undertake all actions necessary to secure your compliance.

Having brought this to your attention, we are confident that you will understand our concerns and act immediately. We will be monitoring your website, and await your response in writing. Please contact the undersigned at webcompliance@mannatech.com if you have any questions regarding Mannatech's position in this matter. Nothing herein shall be construed as a waiver of any rights Mannatech has at law or in equity, all of which are expressly reserved.

Your prompt attention and cooperation in this matter are greatly appreciated.

Respectfully,
Mannatech Legal, Ethics & Compliance Department

What could I say? Here is my reply:

I am rather puzzled by your Cease and Desist demand as I can guarantee that I have never made any claim for the effectiveness of Mannatech products in the treatment or management of any disease or ailment, human, veterinary or agricultural. I would not make such a claim as I would not believe it to be true, and truth is important to me. If you read the web page you objected to you will see that the only claims of effectiveness for anything from Mannatech are made by people extolling (and presumably selling) the products. In fact you might even see where I took someone to task for claiming that sugar pills were an effective treatment for Parkinson's Disease.

I must thank you, however, for your clearly implied admission that Mannatech products are useless in the treatment or management of any disease. I will quote you in future when Mannatech distributors abuse me for not recognising the amazing curative properties of the products.

I will, of course, be removing nothing from my site and will be making no changes to the way I comment about Mannatech in the future. As is my usual policy, your email and this reply will be featured prominently on my site.

Thank you.

See more about Mannatech here.


And the clowns came back:

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:09:12 -0500
From: webcompliance@mannatech.com
Subject: Cease and Desist

TO: Peter Bowditch

RE: Impermissible Use of Health Claims Attributed to Mannatech Products 1.5.47
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/mannatech.htm

Dear Peter Bowditch:

We previously contacted you requesting your assistance on a critical issue concerning your website. We have requested and made formal demand that you immediately remove any statements from your website which are or could be construed to be unauthorized health claims which go beyond stating that Mannatech nutritional products promote the maintenance of health and general well-being. The statements made on your website are contrary to Mannatech policy.

Demand is hereby made that you immediately remove from your website any statement or reference which (i) states, suggests or implies that Mannatech nutritional products prevent, treat or cure disease, (ii) states, suggests or implies that Mannatech nutritional products are a substitute for a doctor's standard of care, and/or (iii) is in any manner in contradiction with Mannatech's existing policies and procedures. Demand is further made that you refrain from engaging in this activity in the future.

We remain confident you understand our concerns and also appreciate that it is imperative that you promptly comply with the demand to cease and desist, and to document your compliance in writing within five (5) business days of the receipt of this letter. If you have already complied with this demand, we thank you and appreciate your cooperation.

Nothing herein shall be construed as a waiver of any rights Mannatech has at law or in equity, all of which are expressly reserved.

Your prompt attention to this matter is greatly appreciated.

Respectfully,
Mannatech Legal, Ethics & Compliance Department

I replied:

I am not sure why you didn't receive my response to your earlier Cease and Desist demand, but as it appears on the page in question and I assume you have checked that page before sending the current email I am at a loss as to why you do not seem to understand my position on this matter. For reference, here is my previous response:

I am rather puzzled by your Cease and Desist demand as I can guarantee that I have never made any claim for the effectiveness of Mannatech products in the treatment or management of any disease or ailment, human, veterinary or agricultural. I would not make such a claim as I would not believe it to be true, and truth is important to me. If you read the web page you objected to you will see that the only claims of effectiveness for anything from Mannatech are made by people extolling (and presumably selling) the products. In fact you might even see where I took someone to task for claiming that sugar pills were an effective treatment for Parkinson's Disease.

I must thank you, however, for your clearly implied admission that Mannatech products are useless in the treatment or management of any disease. I will quote you in future when Mannatech distributors abuse me for not recognising the amazing curative properties of the products.

I will, of course, be removing nothing from my site and will be making no changes to the way I comment about Mannatech in the future. As is my usual policy, your email and this reply will be featured prominently on my site.

Thank you.

To make matters quite clear, the following statements describe my position:

  • I am not a Mannatech distributor, so your rules do not apply to me.
  • At no place on my site do I state, suggest or imply "that Mannatech nutritional products prevent, treat or cure disease".
  • At no place on my site do I state, suggest or imply "that Mannatech nutritional products are a substitute for a doctor's standard of care".
  • I don't do either of these things because I have no reason to believe that "Mannatech nutritional products prevent, treat or cure disease" or "Mannatech nutritional products are a substitute for a doctor's standard of care". I fact, I believe quite the opposite.
  • If you do not want me to publish such claims made by Mannatech distributors then you should instruct Mannatech distributors not to email people with such claims.

Once again I must thank you for your admission that claims for any medical usefulness of Mannatech products are baseless.

As always, your email and this response will be published prominently on my web site.

Thank you.


Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:59:42 -0800
From: Paul Falla
Subject: Allergy elimination

Dear Ratbags (what an appropriate monniker)

I write in reply to your completely misinformed comments on your website in relation to the so called quackery of allergy elimination. In all my living years I have yet to encounter anybody as close-minded as yourself. and trust me, I have met some very close-minded individuals.

I have a number of issues in relation to your inane ramblings on this subject, the greatest being, what credentials or qualifications do you posses which give you the right to pass judgment on these alternative allergy treatments? It would be interesting to see if you actually have something firm to back up your claims. If not, then the term 'charlatan' applies equally to your good self, does it not?

I also find it bizarre that you permit the advertisement of these cures on a page devoted to the rubbishing of others legitimate claims to success.

See what the whine was about here.


From: "Dee Dee"
Subject: I notice...
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:49:26 -0500

You've still got the name Stan Burzynski in a rant about cancer frauds. Given the fact that the AMA and ACS, and even MD Anderson Cancer Institute in Houston (his major haters) have been sucking up to him for a LONG time now, maybe you ought to amend that so people Googling him don't run onto your Y2Kish rant about a man who has been vindicated.

Just a FYI.

So the old fraud has cured someone now, has he, after 8,000+ failed attempts?

There is one and only one mention of the quack on the AMA web site (http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/13638.html) where, in 1997, they said:

Some methods proposed for study and further dissemination have been associated with proponents using questionable methods and possibly fraudulent research. Several of these are cancer therapies, including "antineoplastons," popularized by a physician named Burzynski who claims he can "normalize" tumor cells by shutting off their undifferentiated growth using peptides extracted from urine. A review of this method in JAMA concludes that no objective evidence exists to support the experimental claims.

That's some "sucking up". And so recent too.

There is one and only one mention of the quack on the ACS web site (http://www.cancer.org/docroot/ETO/content/ETO_5_3X_Antineoplaston_Therapy.asp?sitearea=ETO) where they say:

Although some proponents of antineoplaston therapy have suggested that the reviews of this treatment by conventional cancer specialists are biased by mistrust of alternative therapies, even some prominent figures in alternative medicine have reservations about antineoplastons. According to Dr. Andrew Weil, author and physician, founder and director of the Program in Integrative Medicine at the University of Arizona ,"Over the years, Dr. Burzynski claims to have treated more than 8,000 patients, but his success rates are unknown. His Web site states only that he has helped "many" people. If antineoplaston therapy works, we should have scientific studies showing what percentage of patients treated have survived and for how long, as well as evidence showing how Dr. Burzynski's method stacks up against conventional cancer treatment. … Until we have credible scientific evidence showing what antineoplastons are, how they act in the body, and what realistic expectations of treatment with them might be, I see no reason for any cancer patient to take this route."

That's some "sucking up" And note how a supporter of quackery is quoted by the ACS. Even quacks think that Burzynski is a fraud.

The only people sucking up to Burzynski and his ilk are those who believe that any lie told to someone with cancer is acceptable as long as it assists the flow of money from patient to charlatan.

And you misspelled "exposed as a fraud". That is not what "vindicated" means.

Just a FYI.

See more about Dr Burzynski here.


From: "Wayne Schermerhorn"
Subject:
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:37:03 -0700

You really should pull your head out of your ass

Do you have a specific complaint or is it all too much for you to take in?

And, surprise, surprise, I find myself in conversation with a Mannatech cretinoid:

From: "Wayne Schermerhorn"
Subject: Re:
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:58:47 -0700

Yeah, you either don't have a clue about glyconutrients or you're getting paid from an outside source to post all this garbage. Take a look at the latest medical texts. I'm sure you know that it's real. How does a person such as you live with himself ? Unfortunately there are plenty of weak minded people out there that actually believe the garbage you write. Perhaps someone should start a web site to directly combat yours. Or maybe the attention you're giving to glyconutrients and Mannatech is actually good even though it's negative. For those who aren't weak minded, maybe they'll research glyconutrients, and Mannatech for themselves, and find out the great benefits. So maybe you're doing some good work. Anyone with minute brain function can see that you have no proof at all about what you're spouting.

But Wayne, Mannatech have now told me twice that the stuff they sell is useless. Why should I believe you and not them?


From: "Michelle"
Subject: Your anti-vaccine emails
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 11:25:26 -0400

I just wanted to say thank you for leaving the emails up that I sent you back in 1999 and 2000, the funny thing is, here we are in 2008 after my initial challenge to you, and you are still unable to provide any proof yet.

Of course your emails are still up there. Why would I want to remove evidence of your stupidity, ignorance of and resistance to facts, and your dislike (perhaps hatred) of children? I particularly like the way you emailed me (using what was obviously my email address) to tell me that I worked for me. A better example of stupidity would be hard to find.

Let me refresh your memory: I challenge you NOW to show me REAL proof that vaccines are totally safe and totally effective. Prove to me my daughter didn't die from vaccines. Prove to me that the thousands of reported reactions to vaccines are from something other than vaccines. Prove to me you know something about vaccines, or the dangers, etc..

I am not surprised that even all these years later, I am still waiting to hear back from you with any evidence or proof.

What would be the point? As I said above, you wouldn't recognise a fact if it bit you on your extensive and ever-widening posterior.

I am conducting research into the motivations of anti-vaccination liars and I wonder if you wouldn't mind answering some questions:

  1. Why do you lie about vaccines?
  2. How many dead children in a pile do you need to trigger a spontaneous orgasm?
  3. When unloading dead children from a truck into a mass grave, do you prefer a mechanical shovel, a pitchfork, or do you like to get personal and use your hands?

Sincerely
Michelle M

You can see Michelle's pathetic attempts to defend the indefensible here, here and (most amusing of all) here.


Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:05:27 -0700
From: JOE HARRIS`
Subject: Peter this is what people think of you that have children like yours

Still your friend, Just don't understand you Remember me mentioning a new way to do multi dose vacc's without presevitives you never got in touch with me if you care so much about the children of africa you have a strange way of showing it.

Your friend in christ

PS. write back soon !

Joe -------------------------- TX

Please remember this guy over sees a 18 million dollar Bill Gates hookworm vaccine grant.

He is totally in bed with Pharma.

One of his PR interviews he talks about how he courted Pharma for checks to develop his vaccine. God bless his daughter, I guess rather than a shot at recovery she will be a (Pharma) trust kid to the likes of Leona Helmsley's dog.

I'll never understand why parents wouldn't at least try for recovery or improvement, but to deny someone else the shot at uncovering core issues HHS concede cause Autism is heinous in my book.

The CDC pulls Hortez out as needed. He was the speaker at the closed door press conference before the DC rally a few years back.

My question is this to the media, if he swears up and down vaccines had nothing to do with his daughter's Autism then prove it. Submit her shot lots, porphyrin levels and metabolic results and measles titers for public review. Before you exploit your own child and mislead thousands of others.

As we are often scrutinized for making assumptions. Peter Hortez should not be trusted on his word alone - bring data.

Right now it is proven that Thimerosal and other toxins do provoke developmental neuro-damage as per the manufacturers safety data sheet. That is a fact.

I am saddened that some people will even exploit their Autistic kids for money.

I hope and pray he will come to his senses and consider his daughter before the almighty Pharma dollar.

 Karen Beauvais
Mom to Joshua, who had 276X the EPA allowable amount of Mercury in his infant vaccines.

No, I don't know what this is about either.


The following comment was posted to my YouTube channel on October 2, 2008. As always, I am deeply impressed by the comments of anonymous people and will immediately change my ways.

So you're the "expert" behind the millenium project? Wow, you look like such a highly successful individual... Seriously mate, making a living from whinging, snivelling and pointing out the negatives everywhere you go... how do you find any joy in life? Were you abused as a little boy? Or are you just bitter about being a balding, aging "management consultant" who never got anywhere with your own abilities and could only become known by moping and bringing others down?

You sap the world of all that's good. Go suck a tail pipe.


Subject: Response to September Issue Cam or Scam
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:44:50 +1100
From: "Mark Smith"

Hi,

I was surprised to find your article on homeopathy, acupuncture and chiropractic. [See this article here. PB] I didn't realize there where people "out there" dedicated to look for anything negative related to "alternative" therapies.

Why not? Did you assume that quackery would be immune from investigation?

In fact, I would have thought that if this were the case that allopathic medicine would have been your first port of call, as the leading cause of death in the USA is from iatrogenic sources

Ah, yes - The Lie That Will Not Die. I don't know why later figures aren't available, but here are the 10 leading causes of deaths in the USA in 2005. If you have any later information you might like to let the CDC know so that they can update their web site.

Number of deaths for leading causes of death:

  1. Heart disease: 652,091
  2. Cancer: 559,312
  3. Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 143,579
  4. Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 130,933
  5. Accidents (unintentional injuries): 117,809
  6. Diabetes: 75,119
  7. Alzheimer's disease: 71,599
  8. Influenza/Pneumonia: 63,001
  9. Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 43,901
  10. Septicemia: 34,136

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm

(it is the third leading cause of death in Australia).

Australian numbers are more up to date, but again I encourage you to contact the Australian Bureau of Statistics with your later information so that they can update their web site. Here is the situation in 2006:

  1. Ischaemic heart diseases - angina, heart attacks, and blocked arteries of the heart (I20-I25): 22,983
  2. Strokes ( I60-I69): 11,465
  3. Trachea and lung cancer (C33-C34): 7,348
  4. Dementia and Alzheimer's disease (F01-F03, G30): 6,542
  5. Chronic lower respiratory diseases - asthma, bronchitis and emphysema (J40-J47): 5,443
  6. Colon and rectum cancer (C18-C21): 3,858
  7. Blood and lymph cancer (including leukaemia) (C81-C96): 3,693
  8. Diabetes (E10-E14): 3,662
  9. Diseases of the kidney and urinary system (N00-N39): 3,192
  10. Prostate cancer (C61): 2,952

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/3303.0

From what YOU say alternative medicine (I prefer to use the term complementary) has no effect (other than placebo).

I didn't say that at all. What I said was, and I quote, "All of the above treatments work. They work provided that the patient has a self-limiting or mild psychosomatic condition". Real medicines have a placebo effect as well. The objective of clinical trials is to see if the medicines have an effect greater than placebo. If all you can claim is placebo then all you can claim is nothing, so there should be no charge. Why do quacks want to charge money for things that do nothing? Surely that would be fraud.

If this was the case then at least the mortality rate would be a lot less!!!

Are you saying that the mortality rate for alternative medicines is the same as for real medicine and can be reduced? I'm pleased about that and I look forward to reading the research on how that can be achieved. A good start would be a system of reporting adverse effects.

I agree that there are charlatans out there that exploit people who will do anything to relieve their symptoms but that is not due to the professions out there, it is more related to those individuals, and it occurs in medicine also. The biggest charlatans are the pharmaceutical companies who drive the medical machine, their guinea pigs are the general public. If their product kills or maims enough people they take it off the market and repackage it as something else.

So all alternative and complementary medicines undergo extensive safety trials involving millions of test subjects to prove absolute safety before they are sent to market, do they? As an example, the day after Vioxx was withdrawn from the market I was offered a quack substitute that was guaranteed to be safe. How could this be known? (By the way - the people who suffered ill effects from Vioxx were not using it according to the clear instructions on the label, but why should that fact mean anything to the critics?)

Yet, if someone has an allergic reaction to royal jelly, the AMA wants to shut down the whole naturopathic community.

You might like to point me to the safety trials for royal jelly that were undertaken before it was sold to the public. You might also like to consider risk/benefit ratio. As the risk of allergic reaction to bee products is quite high and there are no trials or research indicating any benefit of royal jelly (except to the wealth of those selling it), the ratio is infinite. Here's something else to think about - should royal jelly be "prescribed" for someone who is also taking one of the large number of alternative products which "boost the immune system"?

By the way - the AMA has no say over who practices what in the medical field. They can express an opinion but they can't stop anyone doing anything.

I would have thought that if you were going to make comments such as you have that you would have done a little research (there is a plethora of research articles out there on the benefits of "alternative medicine") beforehand. Having said that I understand that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even if you feel the need to spread your opinion to as many people as possible. But I would be interested to find out your opinion based on the same scrutiny of the pharmaceutical and medical industry.

And I would be interested in your explanation of how the mutually exclusive world views of chiropractic (or in your case, osteopathy), homeopathy and acupuncture can be reconciled. Do bacteria and viruses cause disease?

Mark Smith
Osteopath

You can see what this is about here.


Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:17:24 -0800
From: Tam erica
Subject: It takes a fool to fool a fool...

Wow! What a wonderful anti-vaccination site this is!! Now Im even more sure of the choice I made NOT to vaccinate my precious, healthy children that God has blessed me with.

When I was twelve years old, I stood in a line, in the hallway of my school with all 48 of my classmates. I was waiting for my turn to have several needles, all connected in a circle, injected into my arm all at once. I bare the scar from it to this day as a reminder. When I think back about that day now, as a 41 year old, I see it from a ceiling view and it makes me think of the Pink Floyd video where the children are lined up and marched into the meat grinder. "All and all, we're all just bricks in the wall"...... and im nothing to the government. Well, except for maybe a test subject. We'll always be good for that, as long as we accept it. I wish my mom would have stopped it from happening to me. I wish I would have listened to the child voice in me, as I stood waiting in that line, that said, "this is strange.. this is wrong.", and stepped out of that line and said, "I have rights and it will be a cold day in hell before you inject me!". But, I was only a child and didnt know I had rights..... and my parents were out to lunch.

My children attend public school in Indiana and they "tryed" to trick me into thinking that I had to have them vaccinated. Thank the good Lord that I knew better. And I cant believe the amount of people who told me I was wrong because they had believed the lie and were pressured into having their children vaccinated by the schools, until I proved them wrong by sending my unvaccinated child to school by signing a paper saying that I didnt agree with vaccinations for both medical and religious reasons. Unfortunately, it was too late for my best friends little girl, who was developing normally until her first vaccines at age two, now she has slight autism. She didnt want to vaccinate her but didnt believe me that she didnt have to in order to enroll her in pre-school. Now she has guilt that haunts her.

I didnt plan on typing past my first two sentences because I agree on one thing with "what's his name" that runs this site....... no sense in talking to fools.(unless you're after easy prey) Guess I got carried away. Have a great day and God bless us all even though we dont deserve it.


From: Paul Sintra
Subject:
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:51:57 -0800

"This is as much a form of abuse as beating them or having sex with them. Perhaps more, because bashers and sexual predators usually don't publicly boast about the fact and show photographs to strangers in order to progress their perverted agendas"

Were you molested as a child?

Go here to see what this is about.


From: "Glenn Wells"
Subject: Congratulations
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 06:13:27 +1100

Hi I was looking at your site and I thought to myself this guy would be perfect as a US Public Relations guy. I do feel sorry for you though, having a closed mind is not very healthy.

All the best to you.

Glenn Wells

Thank you, Glenn. I'm actually in Australia like you so I don't think I will be doing any US PR work. I feel for your closed mind problem but there's not much I can do about it, I'm sorry. Perhaps you could join a skeptics group and they could arrange an intervention.


From: "Kimo"
Subject: Boyd Haley
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:48:53 -0500

How many autistic children do you have?

None, but I have a very close relative who has Asperger's Syndrome.

Did you note when the symptoms of Autism occurred?

It wasn't diagnosed precisely for a year or so, but one of the nurses noted the way the baby attended to stimuli immediately after birth, so that's when the signs first appeared. Let's say at five minutes old.

I notice that you refer to Dr. Haley and others as "anti-vaccination" liars...which of course screams "agenda" within your own articles.

Why? They lie so they are liars. It's quite simple if you understand how English works.

I'm pretty sure (having an Autistic son and following this whole "theory" very closely) that none of them have espoused getting rid of vaccines, but rather eliminating Thimerasol as the preservative.

You haven't been paying attention, have you? Why do they oppose MMR, which has never contained thimerosal? Why do they oppose all the vaccines which no longer contain thimerosal? The only answer I can think of is that they hate children and want to see them dead or maimed.

I'm not a Bio chemist, but you engage in the same "wow them with technical speak" B.S. that you accuse Dr. Haley and others of engaging in. Let me see…you use the Helicopter pilot analogy to as a way to demonstrate what you believe is an idiotic response. How about this…"Mercury is only one of 23 atoms in the Thimerasol compound." My reply…who gives a shit…can you tell me what happens to that Mercury atom after my son's body breaks down the Thimerasol? No?

Yes. When the thimerosal breaks down, one of the products is ethyl mercury which leaves the body in the urine and stools. The mercury goes with it. Liars will try to tell you that thimerosal breaks down to methyl mercury or that ethyl and methyl mercury have the same effect on the body, but they would be lying. After all, lying is what they do.

Let me guess, you're not a doctor but a blogger…you have a really impressive degree in "blogging".

You don't have to guess, because it is stated quite clearly on my web site. You are not the first person claiming the ability to research facts who can't even find out the simplest things about me and you won't be the last. And by the way, to be a blogger I would need a blog. This site isn't one.

Here's another common response "Billions of vaccines have been given with no ill effect." Again, who cares if hundreds of thousands have had an ill affect? I don't think anyone believes the Thimerasol alone is the culprit…but rather that those who's Autism may have been triggered by it have a genetic disorder where their bodies can not detoxify as effectively.

Yes, that's the lie that had to be invented when the "autism epidemic" didn't go away after the thimerosal was removed from vaccines. It's the lie that had to be invented to dispute the repeated and extensive scientific studies which have shown that there is no connection between thimerosal and autism.

I'm no medical doctor either, but I know that injecting children THE DAY THEY ARE BORN with molecules that contain mercury is…idiotic.

And what vaccines which contain mercury are given to children THE DAY THEY ARE BORN? See the full list of vaccines here. Please be specific.

The final proof in the pudding is that pharmaceuticals "voluntarily" removed Thimerasol. Given that they, much as your "advertising based" blog-site, chase the almighty dollar, why would they remove it if there were no ill effects?

It was done as a public relations exercise because they were being distracted from the task of protecting children by liars telling lies about autism. It made some vaccines more expensive because it meant that they had to be packaged in single-use vials and probably saved the manufacturers some money because they could leave out an ingredient.

FOAD!

Why so coy with the acronym? We're all adults here. I'm not too shy to spell it out and tell you to fuck off yourself, but I don't want you to die.


Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:24:32 -0700
From: John H
Subject: What Is It Excatlly You Support?

Mr. O'Neill

I am not Mr O'Neill.

What Is It Excatlly You Support?

The Medical Industrial Complex?  Really?  Are you simply against individuals CHOSSING FREELY the medical path that best suites them because it's a path that doesn't suite you?  Is your day job really pushing dope for big pharma?  Do you sleep well at night?

I sleep very well. Children with whooping cough do not sleep well, nor do children with diphtheria. Meningitis from measles can make children scream with pain, causing their parents to lose some sleep. The parents of children who die from vaccine-preventable illnesses must often spend sleepless nights nursing their grief. Not that any of this would be of concern to you, of course.

In reading your web site I'm really trying to fathom what on earth it is YOU DO SUPPORT / PUSH?

In reading your web site I'm really trying to fathom what on earth language it is written in, although it does bear a superficial similarity to English.

If you're really a big supporter of the 'established' medical 'industry' you obviously must be a EUGENISTS / TRANS-HUMANIST.  Here in the U.S.A. our own government and 'established media' has estimated that the very 'sound' medical establishment you SEEM TO defend tooth and nail kills over 200,000 annually.  The first 100,000+ are killed due to 'established' big pharma drugs, vaccines included and, other 100,000+ are killed due to misdiagnoses by the very type docs you defend to the end.  If you wish to CLAIM I'm "making these figures up", go haead, they aren't very hard to find for anyone eho's just slightly inquisitive.

Yes, those numbers can be found on many web sites written by liars and deluded opposers of medicine. I would never claim that you made up the 100,000 number, because in fact I was the one who made it up. You can read about that here.

So Mr O'Niell, are these death toll numbers NOT high enough for you?  Would you like to see them rise?  All in the name of 'sound established medical practice'?

All The Best!
John H.


Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:10:13 -0800
From: tony Tohnkah
Subject: project ho

Hello Peter, you're not a physician are you? Most Doctors aren't. Anyway, I'd love to attend a speaking engagement in person, do you have any planned? I'd like to hear more about your theories on the benefits of forced vaccination, genocide, and soft-kill weapons. Delicious! By the way, whats your favorite Kool-aid flavor? Oh yeah almost forgot...what are your thoughts on population reduction? Its a good thing we fall under the the banner of medicine 'else we'd all be war criminals, right! And thanks to the Pentium pimp we can all afford to get immuno-suppressive therapy...Atta boy Bill and Melinda! Hey mom, fcuk the Sunny D, more dead genetic material please! Keep up the good work Peter, you're a big shiny phallus-like beacon of light for schills everywhere.


From: Paul Krismanits
Subject: Question about Mannatech
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 22:31:02 -0400

I read everything you have posted and I must ask, are you an idiot? You say over and over again that their doctor didn't win the Nobel Prize but I googled it and he DID win it in medicine in 1999. Look it up yourself http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/1999/.

You might like to point to exactly where I said that Dr Blobel didn't win the Nobel Prize. If your Google skills are good enough, you might even find where I said:

Dr Günter Blobel, who won the Physiology or Medicine Prize in 1999 "for the discovery that proteins have intrinsic signals that govern their transport and localization in the cell".

Did you notice the web link there? It appears to be the same one you gave me, and I had it in 2006.

So what it didn't have to do with their product?

If it had nothing to do with the product, why do they use his name as a form of endorsement?

The dude still works for them!

Does he? Then why did he get a lawyer to issue a Cease and Desist order against Mannatech for saying that his research had something to do with sugar pills? Most people don't stay employed if they set lawyers on the boss. Even you recognise (see above) that his research had nothing to do with Mannatech.

Also, I couldn't find ANYWHERE but your own site where it says 1994 for the prize.

I was quoting from a message sent to me by a Mannatech distributor. The fact that the lie doesn't appear elsewhere just makes it even more ludicrous.

Your attempt to discredit through this one area is ludicrous. So one salesman who didn't quite know what he was talking about e-mails you and you use that against the company?

No, I used it against the writer, but surely even you can find examples of fraudulent claims of Mannatech-related research winning Nobel Prizes. You can see some Nobel winners complaining about the lies here.

Since you know MLM so well, you should know that their salespeople are self-employed. THe company itself never made that statement.

Of course it didn't. MLM companies rely strongly on the distributors making the claims, so that the companies can use what is called "plausible deniability". It just seems rather a strong coincidence that the same lies keep coming from different distributors.

So what is it? Did you just try Mannatech and suck so now you have to go nuts on it?

The education in basic arithmetic I received in school prevented me from ever joining any pyramid scheme, however well disguised from the law they might be. I don't have to keep a dead dog in my house to know that something rotten smells bad.

That sure is open-minded. I read over and over your site, and your just a smug SOB who is twisting stuff to fit your own opinions, without any real regard for the truth or any desire to find out what it really is. You must be a Democrat.

Why? Do Democrats have a better grasp of reality than members of other parties?

Oh, and I bet this e-mail never finds its way onto your page. Coward.

You lost that bet, didn't you? On four pages to start off with, and then only three after it drops off the front page.

Read more about Mannatech here.


From: "BCM"
Subject: re Mercola
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 08:15:43 +1000

Sir/Madam:

I have a rule of thumb for medicine. If it doesn't come from a lab owned by a pharmaceutical giant it probably works. If it does 'work' and comes from a Big Pharma lab it probably has very serious side effects and is probably already the subject of a damages claim.

Wasn't Vioxx, a drug that killed an estimated 40,000 people the product of 'peer-reviewed science'?

Regards,
Mel


From: "Michael Cohen"
Subject: Coast to Coast, Richard Hoagland
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:31:51 +1000

Some of your entries are just opinion really, not really ratbags, Hoagland is rather respected amongst Ufologists. Coat to coast a mainstream Radio Show-not really promoting paranormal events. Reality is Alien visitation is real and the world is on the threshold of open contact.

Thank you for the advice about Hoagland. Nothing reassures me about someone's veracity quite as much as endorsement by UFO believers.

M Cohen

Publisher

www.allnewsweb.com


From: "GROET"
Subject: NO FACT NO ARGUMENT
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 12:34:14 +0200

Mr. Bowditch,

You have no fact and no argument mentioned in relation to mrs. Rebecca Carley position on vaccination.

YOU HAVE NO FACT, YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT.

Your domainname is Rat in a Bag?

Who do you think is in that Bag?

You mention in an email many adjectives according to you applicable to mrs. Carley?

You ask her to choose some?

You point with your finger to her???!!

At the same time, many more fingers point to yourself!

I tell you: I will not ask you to choose some of these adjectives applicable to YOU, since I do not need your socalled judgment or choice.

I KNOW what is applicable to YOU.

Go and ask for as many vaccinations as you want and think are necessary.

I wish you good luck and you will not have much time to live, since you appear to believe in vaccinations.

Your true cause is a totally different one.

Go on crawling on the ground like a snake.

This is where your like belongs.

Go to the ground.

Go underground where you come from.

Go to the same darkness as is proliferating from your mouth.

Go on producing shit: in the end you will suffocate in your own shit.

You are to be pitied.

Jan Ligthart
Netherlands

You can see what this is about here.


From: "hdueck"
Subject: Fw: science?
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:34:54 -0700

Hi ! To whom it may concern
Personnally I have excellent results from being treated by a cra practitioner. I am not a scientist, but when I read from 2 mds comments about science in medicin, than I wonder, what drives their different opinions? Where lies the reason? Is it just open mindednes? When someone talks about alternative (natural medicin) being unscientific, what does he mean? Isnt scientific meaning knoledge. As a layperson do I need a medical doctor to tell me that drinking clean water is better than dirty water. has it not been proven ( scientifically) ? Just imagin we would need an md to give a prescription for water, than coca cola would make it for us and pfizer would clean it for us. Makes sense? No. But that is as senseles as I see a discussion about alternative MEDICIN not being scientific. Thank you

You can see more about the almost unbelievable CRA scam here.


From: Gayla Groom
Subject: two n's
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:35:58 -0600

just so's you know -- millennium has 2 "n"s.

Ummm, yes I do know that. It is even mentioned on the front page of the site, just below the masthead at the top of the page.


From: "Paolo Just"
Subject: You and Anti Vaccers
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:39:58 +1000

You act?

Pardon? If you mean "am I a professional actor?" then the answer is "yes", although I don't see what that has to do with anything.

You have some IT knowledge and some other credentials which are at the very least suspect, yet you seem to know everything about health vaccinations and why you can't access a website.

In what way are my credentials suspect?

You think because you get a 404 message you have been banned, with that sort of paranoia it is a wonder you manage to get through life at all.

Actually, I got a 403 error (access refused because of authentication failure) not 404 (page not found). There is a difference.

If you just did a simple check on Viera Schiebners website you would see that all 3 sites are down, why?

Who knows? Who cares? Perhaps there really is a God.

Simple, the servers that these sites are on are down, and have been down for as far as I am aware a very long time.

They were working on April 4. The fact that they are down now is encouraging, because while these sites are unreachable (for any reason) there is less possibility that parents might see them and be deceived into avoiding vaccination for their children. Put another way, while these sites are off the air children are safer.

I can't even access the site and get the same message as you, so get your facts right before you post your uneducated rubbish.

Paolo Just


From: "George Eby"
Subject: Eby's ColdCure
Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 05:24:57 -0500

Hi Peter,

Hi George, I like your informality.

You list my site http://coldcure.com as a fraud.  It is not a fraud.  See the site and check out the links for evidence.  The entire site is devoted to displaying the evidence that I am right.  This means independent collaboration of my findings.  Perhaps the best medical journal article to show you that I am right is found at:   http://coldcure.com/html/zinc-lozenges-as-cure-for-common-cold.pdf

That's the best medical journal article? Something written by you and published in Medical Hypotheses? Please don't ask me to read the worst article. Oh, by the way, my weeping eyes and shortness of breath aren't symptoms of a cold - I'm just laughing so hard at you. Medical Hypotheses! I have to stop or I'll need Ventolin.

I expect you to immediately remove my site from your list or face a lawsuit.

You expect too much.

George Eby, site owner

And, of course -


Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 03:22:59 -0400
From: anonymous@venompen.com
Subject: aaaaaaaa

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fuckerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrsuck my ballsssss go fuck yourself you
retard how would you like to meet one of your or your cronie's victims
face to face well I'm one of them you ratfucker rapist shit shit shit
balls balls balls


From: Jared Levine
Subject:
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 22:02:56 +0000

You're a money hungry douche that is partially responsible for a holocaust in the US.


From: "Raul daSilva"
Subject: Not in debate but for clarity
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:13:57 -0400

I have not known John Edward to declare himself a "psychic" but as a "spirit medium". Since I have had ample personal evidence of this phenomenon as evidential I have no arguments with anyone who claims they have extradimensional contact then prove it beyond any doubt.

Do not confuse the term "psychic" with "spirit medium".  Spirit mediums are not prophets (nearly no one is) nor are the average people they contact who are no longer in this wavelength frequency.

But what did I find on Edward's own web site?

It looks like Edward thinks that Edward is a psychic.


From: (Neil Reinhardt)
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 20:16:07 -0700
Subject: MLM

Too bad the Millennium Project keeps putting out FALSE information!

A. The odds of whomever puts out this site being, and/or even knowing anyone who is MORE Honest and Truthful than I am IS ZERO.

B. The odds of them being more generally experienced than I am are so close to zero, it may as well be zero. (I am much more experienced than most my age and I am 75.)

I've most probably forgotten many times more about Network Marketing than the ding bat who writes it in that site will ever learn! IT is a shame IGNORANT people shoot down things it is certainly very, very obvious to any knowledgeable people they have NO damn clue about!

People who are either too lazy to get the facts and/or so stupid they are unable to comprehend what the facts mean, should keep their mouths closed!

Anyone who says all network marketing companies are scams is a close minded retarded idiot who would not know what eiither facts or the truth is were it a sharp pointed cactus they sat on while naked!

Neil C. Reinhardt

"A Pro Iraq War Agnostic Atheist Activist, 101st Vet & Iconoclastic, Philosophizing, Beach VolleyBall Playing Grumpy Old Son Of A Beach!"

I really love Nature's Immune Boosting (over 150%) Healing "miracle" which I've been drinking and/or using topically since September of 1979 when I was only 62 years old. (And it STILL AMAZES ME! )

GET THAT? THIRTEEN YEARS!

http://tni.com/

A Proud Supporter of the TEA PARTY Movement

From: Michael Augenstein
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:44:45 -0600
Subject: healing and other phenomena

As you  know, throughout history there have been numerous healings and other phenomena. Some prayed for and others just "miraculous". The scientific community is sometimes at a loss to explain these incidents. It is believed by many health professionals that a positive mental state can accelerate healing. In Religious Science we use "spiritual mind treatments", affirmative prayer to elicit a little help from the universe. Along with the treatment we actively work at /believe that which we are treating for. We "treat and move our feet".  There have been an awful lot of people throughout the years who have believed that we have the ability to change our circumstances through changing our thinking, "new thought". How does this fit in with your attitude towards scientific methodology? And lastly, now that the scientific community has pretty much agreed that the most abundant energy in the universe is the so-called "dark energy" (God?), and none of the current scientific methods can actually prove it's there, how can it be so hard to believe that there are ways of healing that can't be explained or in some instances, re-created?

Michael Augenstein, RScP

From: "Michael"
Subject: You are FULL of Shit!
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 18:16:03 +1100

Who are you working for Rat Bag?

Don't you know that all synthetic medicine is useless, and is toxic to the human body.

Allopathic medicine contains no nutrients, and no electro-magnetic properties for proper healing of the body to take place.  We are electro-chemical in nature.

Synthetic medicine is QUACKERY, as it copies from the true healer, NATURE and tries to outbeat it, which it never will.  You cannot compete with the Creator who placed everything in nature to cure us, nature;s own medicine cabinet.

Keep taking the drugs idiot, that is why you can't think straight! Bet you look older than what you really are, and ugly.  That is what allopathic medicine does to you, it takes the lifeforce out.  Satan's work.

I just had to leave the Comic Sans, the world's most ridiculed typeface.


Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:27:21 +1030
Subject: lutec free energy
From: Harry

Just reading posts on a website I assume is yours

That is usually the case when you follow an email link on a web site.

about the lutec free energy device. I assume you still think lutec are crooks. What is funny to me, is that you are wrong.

So they really do have a perpetual motion machine! When are they going to stop asking for money and start showing us how all of physics is wrong? By the way, telling me I'm wrong without offering more information is not the way to convince me of anything.

See more about the Lutec scam here.


From: LP
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:25:14 -0500
Subject: Award

Thank you for your comments.

You should get the *Absurd Asshole* of the year award. It is beyond me, and others who find your slamming natural medicines, naturopaths, vaccines (Autism....anyone?), reputable Labs and any other *Absurb* lie you try to convince the "sheeple"community remotely convincing.  But then, being one yourself....(Sheeple, that is....then Asshole...or....vice/versa) that totally makes sense.

I have a rule that I stop reading at the first occurrence of the word "sheeple" as it is evidence that I am dealing with the brain-dead. I did glance ahead, however, and as your email provided some amusement I decided to carry on. The evidence I mentioned is still there, of course.

So....why don't you get a toxic vaccination, go see a drug-pushing allopathic doctor so he can give you more drugs (obviously YOU are on many...and it appears they are *Psychotropic*), apply for a job at the FDA (Food and Death Administration) so you too can be in collusion and join the elitists of the world to keep the people dumbed down and drugged up, and continue on with the depopulation agenda........and then after you've done all that............

"Depopulation agenda"? What was that I was saying about brain-dead?

Go FUCK YOURSELF!

Manners, please!

People like you are SO pathetic....and I'm quite certain there are a plethora of descriptions for you.....but unfortunately, I cannot think of any other than the award that goes to the likes of your kind which is:  *Absolute Asshole*.

Warmly,
L.P.

Your email has been printed out and posted on the noticeboard in the Ratbags HQ staff tearoom so that all the workers can have a good laugh.


Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 09:08:54 +1000
From: "pool family"
Subject: Anitbio feedback

Dear Ratbags

I write to let you know about an out of date page on your website. http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/antibio.htm

I don't see anything there which is out of date, other than the statement that I manage the Australian Skeptics web site. I no longer do this and this fact is now noted. I have checked the AntiBio web site and there doesn't seem to be anything there which would make me change my mind about anything else I said.

It might be worth your while revisiting this item given 6 years has past since you posted this baseless information. It would seem that gathering facts is something you don't do very well so I write to inform you that I've had an Antibio system treating the water in my domestic pool for six continuous years without issue. My pool contains 82,000 litres of pure fresh water and the only treatment it has received in six years is from the Antibio system. No other antibacterial additions - without fail.

I congratulate you on the robustness of your immune system. I assume you are still filtering the water. By the way, an Olympic-sized pool is about 30 times as big as yours so one would assume it would take 30 AntiBio gadgets to keep one of them clean, but the AntiBio web site still shows only one mobile phone charger being used. It is normal for treatment things like this to scale with the application and the fact that it seems that "one size fits all" is evidence that the thing doesn't do much at all. If you doubt me, compare the size of your sand filter to the one at the local council pool.

My local pool shop were very interested when I installed this system and collected weekly water samples for the first three months of operation. They were shocked that this technology works and departed muttering about having to charge me for future water analysis because they doubted being able to make money from me by selling chemicals. My local pool shop undertakes more assessment than you appear to!

I'm surprised that they haven't signed on as distributors of the AntiBio device. Perhaps they thought that selling tested methods of controlling pool water quality was preferable to selling kits consisting of some wires, a couple of hose clamps and a mobile phone battery charger.

By the way, have you had any water quality checks done since the initial six months? Your filter can make the water look clean but most of the bugs are invisible even when a lot of them are in the water.

I also notice that you continue to speak on behalf of the Australian Skeptic Association, a group to which I belonged until I visited your website six years ago whilst deciding to buy an Antibio unit. I was your website and one eyed ideology that lead me to feel that this was not something I wanted to be part of. I'm an engineer, a practical person who is not prepared to disregard a new idea until it can be tested. Apparently, you are not of the same mind.

I do not speak for Australian Skeptics (there is no Australian Skeptic Association) and never have unless I have specifically said so at the time. If my comments about AntiBio drove you away from the organisation then you could not have been much of a fan in the first place.

While I can't tar all Skeptics with the same brush, your website does contain some relevant and valid social comment but the overwhelming smell of arrogance is enough to turn me off.

Thank you. Constructive comment is always welcome.

I don't expect you'll reconsider your position, although a little more objective factual homework wouldn't hurt.

I've had a look at the scientific "research" conducted on behalf of AntiBio and I would say that they are the ones to do some more objective factual homework. As an example, if you are doing a study to test the ability of something to reduce microbiological population and a seperate system monitoring chlorine injection fails allowing more chlorine than usual to enter the water you cannot then claim that the device under test had any effect on microorganisms. If the research cited on the AntiBio web site is indicative of what passes for PhD-level standards in some parts of Griffith University than I can only feel sympathy for the friends of mine who work or study there or who are alumni, because their work will be devalued by such amateurism.

Jaimes Pool

You can see more about the AntiBio scam here.


From: Kathryn Hodges
Subject:
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 12:03:14 -0500

Peter,

Your site happened to come up on a search and I read the story about the man with spinal surgery whose outcome was poor("CRA"). Though uncertain about your medical training, contracted fingers is a sign (Dupuytren's Contracture) is a sign of spinal cord pressure which can be from nicking the cord or bleeding around the cord. The surgeons would likely have been very busy for 4 hours and it is not uncommon to have to schedule emergency surgery to go back in and correct this problem.

They didn't schedule emergency surgery. They scheduled another operation a week later. In any case, as the entire story by the CRA saleswoman is so full of holes, lies and inconsistencies there is no reason to believe anything about the operation. If the operation ever took place, of course.

I personally observed this happen and though the nurses missed the sign when the surgeon saw it post-op, he ordered immediate imaging and surgery less than 24 hours after the procedure. Perhaps you would have commented differently if you were commenting on a procedure you understood better.

As I said above, the second surgery was scheduled for a week later. The only reason they operated sooner was that there was a sudden availability of an operating theatre. Except that the whole story is a lie.

Sometimes things don't work out well and stimulation and diligence can be the vehicle which best heals the nervous system, though optimal nutrition is most helpful and food is a challenging source of nutrition.

Food is the only source of nutrition, although occasionally supplementation might be necessary. For example, if a drastic diet change happens there might be a need for supplements until the effect of the change is known. This is what happened to me after I was diagnosed with Type II diabetes - I took vitamin supplements for a few weeks because suddenly I was eating half as much food.

See what this is about here.


Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 11:14:43 -0400
Subject: Re: Tweet @ President Obama
From: Philena Rush

I just wanted you to know that I'm personally unsubscribed from ONE.org over this vaccine non-sense. Since I'm one of those "misguided" parents who's daughter became autistic 24hrs after the MMR shot, I wish an organization like ONE.org would fight the right battles when it comes to vaccines.

Thank you for informing me about ONE.org. I hadn't been aware of them and the excellent job they do in raising awareness of problems in the world. I am particularly pleased that they are campaigning strongly for better vaccination to fight childhood diseases and HIV/AIDS. They fight the real battles.

You aren't misguided because you have an autistic child. You are misguided if you think that the MMR vaccine had anything to do with the autism.

First of all, the science of vaccines is outdated. Personalized medicine is the key to creating effective vaccines. But when microbiologist try to file patents for creating a vaccine based on an individual's DNA, they get hidden, or mysteriously commit suicide... Right...

Wrong. If you are going to make statements like this then names, places and dates are required. Don't believe everything you read on anti-vaccination liar web sites. Better still, don't believe anything you read there.

Anyway, for the past 50 years, the science of vaccines only focused on the mass distribution of vaccines and all the chemicals added to vaccines.. The FDA disapproves personal vaccines because vaccines require a double-blinded study.   Now, how in the world can you test a vaccine on someone else, when it's based upon your DNA?

You can't, but as vaccines based on individual DNA aren't ever going to be made there is no reason to do any tests.

And since Dr. Wakefield continues to be discredited, he is a Gastroenterologist not a Pediatrician.

His speciality has nothing to do with why he was discredited. He was discredited because he lied, took money, abused children and behaved unethically.

This explains why not only did my daughter lose eye-contact and speech, but she stopped eating as well, and I had to revert back to blander baby food, but before the shots she was eating Stage 3 foods and finger foods. But for some reason people think it's all in our heads??

You might like to explain what ex-Dr Wakefield's medical speciality had to do with your child.

Nobody has ever said "it's all in your heads". What has been said is that MMR does not cause autism, but autism is usually detected at about the age that the child receives the vaccine. It's called coincidence.

There are too many chemicals added to vaccines.. The vaccine issue is misguided by many parents who are anti-vaccine.. I'm NOT anti-vaccine, because the vaccine's themselves are not the cause of the rise of autism, but it's everything else they put in the damn vaccines for mass distribution.

And what additives in the MMR vaccine could be causing autism? Please do not mention thimerosal, because it has never been there. Please do not mention squalene, because we make that in our bodies and it is essential for life. Please do not mention aborted foetuses, because that is a lie. Please do not mention antifreeze, because that is another lie.

Would someone plz, look into exposes these issues? It's 2011 and we are still using 1950 science?

Actually, it is 2011 and we are using 2011 science. Remember what I said above about believing anti-vaccination liar web sites?

This needs to be stopped. Personalized medicine would ruin the pharmaceutical industry. Follow the money!!

Did you follow ex-Dr Wakefield's money? You know, the £500,000 he was paid to find what the lawyers wanted him to find, or the money he would have received from his measles vaccine patent if he had managed to get MMR off the market. That sort of money


Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:47:03 +0100
From: Sam Hall
Subject: Comment / Feedback

You have clearly mastered the art of modern technology comms, use and abuse.

I too work for a computer consultancy, perhaps one more sucessful than yours. Why are you so afraid to set up a blog ( i cant call it a website as its just your drivel on there) and allow others the freedown to post commnets viewable to all. Are you scared that people may actually post far more powerful data and facts than anything I have red from you ? You are a coward - who thinks themselves particularly smart, get your picure up there...courage of your convictions etc.

If you are so right on your subject matter allow people to reply in public and you may find your audience are far more vociferous than you think.

What will your legacy be - a follower, i see no leaders here.

As is the case for ALL criticism I receive about the site, your email and this response will be published.

It helps to have a look around before you make a fool of yourself.




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